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- It's not that they can't or that it is wrong to change terms. It is just not good faith to try to sneak them in and catch regular players unaware. Fortune Lounge has without fanfare or notice doubled their wagering requirements. This has let some players in for a surprise on cashing out. One had to go to the their WebSite's terms page to know and some that had played weekly (including VIP players) don't understand why FL didn't just highlight the change in their weekly bonus offer. Why hide it? Wagering now requires players to wager their deposit once to receive the bonus and then wager the bonus and deposit 10 times instead of their normal 5 times. These are not 100% match bonus. Often they are only 10%. So for a $10 bonus for $100 deposit the player is looking at wagering $1,200. However, there may be something of a positive nature. Fortune lounge is considering doing away with the carryover feature of their wagers. At 5X a minor irritation, carrying over after bust out is a major problem at 10X. I applaud FL for listening their players and considering doing away with this requirement. Their statement and I assume forthcoming announcement can be found here: http://mb.winneronline.com/showthre...?t=15289&page=2 A good article from SpearMaster on this practice (10 Stupid Casino Tricks) can be found here: http://www.got2bet.com/gambling-articles/sctpart1.php Stanford - I too just found this out and am NOT happy about it. I'd like to know if anyone knows exactly when this change was made? I got an email from them today telling me I needed to wager $4000 more for a lousy $50 bonus I got about a week ago, then referred me to the 10x wagering requirements page. Last I knew it was 5x for a purchase bonus, 8x for free money. I'm a gold VIP member and they didn't even have the courtesy to notify me about it and that is simply unacceptable. (I think I even lost that bonus and now they're pulling this carryover b.s., but I haven't confirmed that yet) Wim, I know you usually monitor these threads and I'd like your comment on this please. Why didn't you notify ALL players of this? I would have expected that at the very least VIP players would be notified, but in all fairness, every player should have been told. Quote: Originally Posted by Stanford It's not that they can't or that it is wrong to change terms. It is just not good faith to try to sneak them in and catch regular players unaware. Fortune Lounge has without fanfare or notice doubled their wagering requirements. This has let some players in for a surprise on cashing out. One had to go to the their WebSite's terms page to know and some that had played weekly (including VIP players) don't understand why FL didn't just highlight the change in their weekly bonus offer. Why hide it? Wagering now requires players to wager their deposit once to receive the bonus and then wager the bonus and deposit 10 times instead of their normal 5 times. These are not 100% match bonus. Often they are only 10%. So for a $10 bonus for $100 deposit the player is looking at wagering $1,200. However, there may be something of a positive nature. Fortune lounge is considering doing away with the carryover feature of their wagers. At 5X a minor irritation, carrying over after bust out is a major problem at 10X. I applaud FL for listening their players and considering doing away with this requirement. Their statement and I assume forthcoming announcement can be found here: http://mb.winneronline.com/showthre...?t=15289&page=2 A good article from SpearMaster on this practice (10 Stupid Casino Tricks) can be found here: http://www.got2bet.com/gambling-articles/sctpart1.php Stanford - It happened about two weeks ago. They certainly should have drawn players' attention to the change. At the same time they stopped sending the weekly match bonuses to me. Is this just me, or do other people have the same experience? Actually, I got one 10% match bonus but the new WR it is just not worth the trouble. - As far as I know, not all the FL casinos follow the same change. The new "improved WR policy" only applied to a few FL casinos. Many FL cainos still have the old Terms and conditions on their website. (5xd+b, 8x free b). I hope a FL representive can clarify the situation for us. - Thanks GrandMaster. I got a 10% match offer this past weekend for Platinum Play but wasn't really interested in it, since it was only 10%. There was NO mention in it of any new wagering requirements though, nor in the same offer a week earlier. I never applied for it, but I did get $10 in my PP account yesterday, apparently I played $100 there at some point over the weekend. I'm going to tell them to stuff the $10 though, its not worth $1100 in wagering to try to claim. Glad I haven't touched it yet! Quote: Originally Posted by GrandMaster It happened about two weeks ago. They certainly should have drawn players' attention to the change. At the same time they stopped sending the weekly match bonuses to me. Is this just me, or do other people have the same experience? Actually, I got one 10% match bonus but the new WR it is just not worth the trouble. - Quote: Originally Posted by jpm I too just found this out and am NOT happy about it. I'd like to know if anyone knows exactly when this change was made? Customer service told me that it was made Feb 11th. I can see how you would have missed it. I do hope we at least get the wagering requirement canned. I would bust out at 5 times. I know I will bust out at 10 times. Most of the good ones don't enforce wagering requirements when you bust out. Maybe when FL addresses this forum on not notifying players within the bonus slicitation emails (easy thing to do) he will address the decision on carryover. Otherwise, I won't be able to play any of the games like C.Stud, VP, Slots. It will be BJ at $2 - boring. Stanford - Thanks hhc. That sounds even more stupid then if its only on certain casinos in the FL group. The link they sent me didn't specify any casino in particular, and just talked generically about the FL group, so I tend to think its all of them. I'm hoping Wim will clarify this for us ASAP since right now its not looking good. - Hi everyone, I also play at FL casinos and would like to thank you for bringing the new WR's to my attention. JPM always warns about reading the T&C'c, however, since we all seem to be FL players for quite some time, I never thought to re-check the T&C's. I hope Wim comes on to explain why we were not told of this change that took place two weeks ago. JPM, I had not seen any recent postings from you and was thinking of you last night. I was worried if you were ok. I am so glad that I read the FL thread and found you here safe and sound. (((hugs))) - Quote: Originally Posted by linda7 I hope Wim comes on to explain why we were not told of this change that took place two weeks ago. Who is Wim. How long does it normally take for him to show up? Does someone have to notify him there is a thread. Stanford - FL has been sending me weekly bonus offer e-mails. The change I noticed from the e-mails was that they have all been 10% bonus and then entry in some drawing for prizes. I wouldn't have been aware of the increased playthrough requirements if I didn't read about it hear. Thanks for the heads up folks. I never did very well with their bonus/playthrough structure in the past anyway. (Waiting until Monday to receive the bonus after 1x playtrough was too much temptation for me. I would often lose the entire deposit before receiving the bonus and then be left with a $20 - $40 bonus to play through.) Now I don't think I'll even consider any bonus of less than 75%. OTOH, I have had pretty good luck playing European BJ, without the bonuses and the associated play requirements. It also seems their cash out have gotten quite a bit faster. I go my last cash-in from Royal Vegas in two business days. I'm waiting for $1000 from Platinum Play now, hope to see it in NETeller tomorrow. craps baccarat bingo online casino
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